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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 7:40 AM
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of course it is always brought up because it is a slam dunk
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 7:48 AM
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No stress means all you worry about is your health and getting better.
Some of them get better because they cross the border to the USA to get treatment that is not available in Canada, or not available in a timely manner.
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 8:45 AM
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the key word her is "some" not many but definitely a few...there are definitely some services that are better and more readily available...at least the government covers the costs or at least a portion of it if it is a necessary procedure. again, no stress
and if you can afford to pay for it out of pocket, no worries there either...
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 9:27 AM
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Note to Tim: Yes, this IS me being rude and "jumping to conclusions."
I didn't think you were being rude here. No name calling. I happen to agree with you 100%. This countries health care system is inhumane. Equal access to health care should be a basic human right. The lack of compassion I see from the right on this issue is appalling.
Tim
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 9:50 AM
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Do you ever write anything useful on these boards?
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM
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Do you ever write anything useful on these boards?
He does...but "useful idiots" cannot be reasoned with.
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:12 PM
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Sharon,
Consider the probability that he has a sociopathic personality. That's pretty much genetically determined and, according to those who study this condition, it is one of very few psychological disorders that is considered untreatable. The others are Narcissism and Psychopathy. Read "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout, PhD. It will give you a better understanding of these pitiful souls. No conscience. No empathy. The world revolves around them. Many of these individuals are of above average intelligence and are able to manipulate others to their will. There are exceptions to the intelligence quotient, however, and this is one of them...
Greg
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:16 PM
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I try to imagine how it would be to have no conscience. I can't do it.
Sharon
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:23 PM
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thebookguys 3 wrote: "Horror stories abound from all of the above, many of which have been posted in these forums."
Funny, in your first post to this thread you disparaged "anecdotal data," and yet now you are attempting to use anectodal data to support your position. Tsk, tsk... But should we be surprised that your posts are full of invective, yet empty of logic? Nope, not at all. Typical bookguys nonsense and hypocrisy...
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:44 PM
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yeah right. By the way, can you tell us which government entitlement you are looking forward to getting the most in the socialist government? Also, tell us what "LGN" you have assigned to it
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM
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Some of us care about the good of the WHOLE America, not just our own little bailiwick.
Do you get a military pension? Do you consider that socialist? Do you consider people on Medicare as socialists? Do you call them pinkos? Blood-sucking parasites?
Sharon
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 12:58 PM
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Rep. John Campbell came up with the brilliant H.R. 5783 "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is Act of 2008" (Amends the Internal Revenue Code to allow taxpayers to designate on their tax returns a payment of $1 or more to the general fund of the Treasury.) but it died in committee.
Well, they have a second chance with H.R. 87 "Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is Act of 2009".
http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/17575574.html
EDITORIAL: Put your money where your mouth is
Congressman can help you fulfill the dream
Tax day is almost upon us -- and with it come the justifiable complaints about the government money grab.
But from some quarters, you might hear a different lament: That Washington doesn't take enough of our money -- that it needs even more to provide all the "services" necessary to take care of us from cradle to grave.
For those who embrace such a perspective -- which apparently includes both the remaining Democratic presidential contenders, who oppose the renewal of the Bush tax cuts, thus endorsing the largest tax increase in American history -- Rep. John Campell, R-Calif., has a proposal especially for you.
Rep. Campbell has introduced the Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is Act, which would amend current tax forms to include a line allowing individuals to make additional contributions to the Treasury, above and beyond their actual tax obligations.
"If the bill passes, it will be easy to send extra tax dollars to Washington, where everyone knows they will be wisely spent," said a tongue-in-cheek Tom Schatz, president of Citizens Against Government Waste. "More money could be spent on important priorities like hops research, lobster and sheep institutes or olive fly research."
Of course, Rep. Campbell's legislation stands no chance -- although it's unclear why his Democratic colleagues wouldn't put it on the fast track.
Perhaps it would be too embarrassing for the forces of Big Government to admit that most Americans wouldn't be clamoring to participate.
It brings to mind the modest DMV rebate most Nevadans received a few years back when the state had a budget surplus. More than one left-leaning pundit expressed great indignation over the plan, arguing that state bureaucrats could make far better use of the money than those who actually earned it.
Of course, those conscientious objectors immediately returned their $275 stipends as soon as they arrived in the mail, no?
What do you think?
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-87
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM
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"Equal access to health care should be a basic human right. The lack of compassion I see from the right on this issue is appalling."
The government is not proposing equal access. Do you think one on Medicaid or Medicare can see the same quality of physician that a UAW, SAG or other lofty union employee with a cadillac plan could? Many doctors won't see Medicare/Medicaid patients due the carpy reimbursement rates. This is not about equality for the dems anyway, it is about control of the system. Besides, most Americans are not looking for equality anyway except for a small minority, including the very liberal socialist wanna be fringe (4%) of population (remember this still is America), The majority does want broader less-restricted more inclusive access, coupled with cost saving/control measures. Most are against free healthcare for illegals, even Obama came out against illegals in reform.
You are correct that the right has little compassion for Nancy's carpola legislation. The right however is largely compassionate regarding the need for healthcare reform, look at the data, about 90% support reform, just not what is being dished out by the dems. There is a major chasm between approaches however. If "good" reform was truley desired by the dems they would have made progress early on, however they just want us to swallow a massive sugar coated bitter pill, and most know better than to swallow. The repubs have simply not been able to get a chair at the table, cannot get their legislation the time of day, and have all their ammendments rejected without consideration. A partisan approach is not possible with the dems attitude and feeling of total control, especially with the chief narcissist at head of table.
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 1:57 PM
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"If "good" reform was truley desired by the dems they would have made progress early on"
Utter nonsense since the PoN leadership declared early on that there would be absolutely NO compromise with Democrat proposals thereby dooming this desperately needed reform to being a one-party effort. Oh, where is the LONG promised PoN draft legislation? Still a sheaf of blank pages, I guess.
Jim
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Re: Names of the Dead (no health insurance)
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Nov 3, 2009 2:23 PM
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Who are you kidding, what a joke and a laugher. You could care less about the whole of Ameerica--if you did you wouldnt advocate a communist for president. If you told the truth you would say that you want the whole of America to all have the same thing--socialism or communism. Thats really the truth. You have already said you support wealth redistribution---a communist tenant. Otherwise, why support Obama.
I dont see a miltary penison as scoialist because I earned every dime of it defending people like you that want to redistribute everything. I laid my butt on the line and paid dearly for it. I gave a large portion of my life for it.
I dont mind Medicare either. I earned it, and have no probnlem with it. I have no problem with it because I am not FORCED to take it if I dont want to. Unlike Obama who is trying to ram his BS down our throats.
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